1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,479 The following programme contains strong language, 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,600 and scenes which some viewers may find distressing. 3 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,479 The bodies of two RAF pilots have been found shot dead 4 00:00:33,480 --> 00:00:35,839 outside a pub in Lincolnshire. 5 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,759 The government has convened a meeting of the emergency COBRA 6 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,600 committee to discuss the incident. 7 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,800 There have been some very worrying events. 8 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:13,239 Two RAF pilots shot dead. 9 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:14,800 A malware attack. 10 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,359 And we now have a Russian spy ship called the Orlan 11 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:20,959 in our territorial waters. 12 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:23,759 It is under surveillance from HMS Loughborough. 13 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,199 The Russians will exploit this. 14 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,959 They are playing the victims in this. 15 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:36,720 This was a deliberate act. 16 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,519 Sirs, we have projectiles in the direction of the Loughborough. 17 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,279 That looks like a torpedo. 18 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:44,680 We have a second one. 19 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,679 Impact. Impact. 20 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,359 Impact on feed. Oh my God. 21 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,480 This attack on the HMS Loughborough, this is unequivocally an act of war. 22 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,239 That's been updated. 23 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,519 The ships need to expedite, get themselves a heading. 24 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,999 Before we put any other assets in there, we need to know- 25 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,519 I'm afraid I can't comment on it. 26 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,280 Start thinking about potential headlines that could come up. 27 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,679 If I may, there are some images coming through 28 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,200 which you may want to watch. 29 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,919 HMS Loughborough has been hit by a torpedo 30 00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:31,680 which will have come from a Russian submarine. 31 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,999 I don't know how many Russian submarines are in the area. 32 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,720 We're trying to find out, but there won't just be one. 33 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,759 Sir, I've got rescue helicopters in the air circling. 34 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,720 OK. A rescue operation ongoing. 35 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,159 Anticipate large scale loss of life. 36 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,519 Can I ask you, how many people do we have on that ship? 37 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,479 What is the plan to rescue as many of our citizens 38 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,039 from the North Sea as is possible? 39 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,840 There were 185 people on board that ship. 40 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,039 There's a rescue in progress. But, um, Loughborough, 41 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,599 from being hit to sinking, 42 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,440 two minutes, 45 seconds. 43 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,040 The British public don't know about this yet. 44 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,800 Our sailors are currently fighting for their lives in the North Sea. 45 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,519 This is a tragedy. 46 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,560 That Russian submarine has committed an act of war. 47 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,319 There are British sailors who are dead 48 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,400 as a direct result of that. 49 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:34,960 It's unprecedented. 50 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,599 We need to know as quickly as possible where that submarine is. 51 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,399 And we also need to find out 52 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,879 if this is just one hunter-killer submarine 53 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,039 or if it is part of a broader pack 54 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,640 ready to launch a far more menacing attack on the UK. 55 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,199 Prime Minister, 56 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,519 satellite coverage reveals that about a week ago, 57 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,439 four Russian submarines left the Kola Peninsula, 58 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,240 which is where the Russian Northern Fleet is based. 59 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,039 And two days subsequently to that 60 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,319 were picked up heading into the North Sea. 61 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,039 Now, if you plot this, it would bring them into the Pentland Firth 62 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,279 at the time of the attack on the Loughborough. 63 00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:21,279 Prime Minister, we must have a retaliation 64 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:25,279 to Loughborough that will be recognised as a retaliation 65 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:28,639 and we need to be considering sinking their submarine. 66 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,680 Prime Minister, I'm going to be really blunt. 67 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,039 We mustn't lose sight of the imperative of de-escalating this. 68 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,759 Let me be clear. 69 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,479 Nothing. Nothing is off the table. 70 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,400 But now other British service people's lives are at risk. 71 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,079 Find the submarines ASAP. 72 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,239 Yes, Prime Minister. 73 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,360 CDS. OK. 74 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,160 This is Watchkeeper. 75 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,479 And pass on to Asset Juliet Mike- 76 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,480 I have no picture, no audio. No picture, no audio. 77 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,719 To find the Russian submarine, 78 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,239 we need to task a P-8 long-range reconnaissance aircraft. 79 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,959 These are armed with torpedoes capable of striking a submarine 80 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,240 up to a depth of around 450m. 81 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,639 How quickly could we do that? 82 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,359 Aircraft ETA is 30 minutes out. 83 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,399 You've got the live feed. I've got live feed. 84 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,239 No change to live feed at the moment. 85 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,680 Holding a steady course. 86 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,799 If you don't know where submarines are, it's a tricky business. 87 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,439 You get hold of a submarine and then you have to keep a track on it. 88 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:33,959 And as you lose it, 89 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,639 you expand the circle of where it could be. 90 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,960 At the moment, those circles are huge. 91 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,399 If we give P-8 free rein, 92 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,959 it will fucking find it and search it or kill it 93 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,199 or whatever it's carrying. Drop as much as it has to. 94 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,239 Yeah. 95 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,879 Once they find this submarine, 96 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,400 did they have permission to engage it and sink it? 97 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,399 My view 98 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,519 is that we must retaliate to make a material difference 99 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,959 to the mindset in Moscow 100 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,720 and get the Russians to back off. 101 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,679 I think some of the cabinet will be reluctant 102 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,839 to see the situation escalating, 103 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:13,800 but I will be pushing them to respond with military force. 104 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,479 How big is the London Eye? 105 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:26,759 100ft. 106 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,679 Oh my God. 107 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,439 So, are you excited to go on the London Eye? 108 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,040 Yeah. What do you know about it? 109 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:38,559 It spins round and round very, um, slow like. 110 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,999 And when you're at the top, you're like, ah. 111 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,599 Let me do one more. 112 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,919 No, these ones have to go over here. 113 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,119 Sorry. 114 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,679 As if the news couldn't get any more mental. 115 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,080 Like- Like we need any more drama going on in our lives. 116 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,959 Ange Mukherjee, our UK defence and security expert is with us. 117 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,439 Great to have you back on DefenceCast, Ange. 118 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,479 Great to be here. Much to discuss. 119 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,039 What's your take on the current situation with Russia? 120 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,839 It's clearly a tragic accident, 121 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,399 even though the Russians are calling it a deliberate act 122 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,799 of military aggression by the UK. 123 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,319 Remember, they're saying this publicly, 124 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,999 but they'll also be back channelling to America and other NATO members 125 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,880 to manipulate the narrative, isolate the UK. 126 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,680 They'll also create a false flag for whatever their next move might be. 127 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,999 OK, so false flag, a phoney pretext to paint the UK 128 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,839 as the villain, right? Exactly right. 129 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,960 We haven't yet told the public about the Loughborough. 130 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:23,319 We have got to get a grip on framing the narrative 131 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,640 before the Russians make a statement. 132 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,039 100%. We must have a press conference 133 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,000 at the earliest possible opportunity. 134 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,479 It would be critical, of course, to use it as a platform 135 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,359 because the world will be listening. 136 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,559 Yes. This is not just information that we're giving out 137 00:08:39,560 --> 00:08:40,959 to our own citizens. 138 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,639 There's a very important diplomatic, global audience 139 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,479 that we are trying to influence. 140 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,359 Prime Minister, our messaging should be that with support 141 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,199 from other NATO nations, 142 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,759 we are prepared to strike back 143 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,079 until they send signals 144 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,799 that they are de-escalating the situation. 145 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,079 Can I also respectfully disagree? 146 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,919 I think we have to be careful that we're not, you know, 147 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,920 speaking in a way that seems the language of war. 148 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,719 So right now, the only information in the public domain, 149 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,519 albeit from the Russian state, 150 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,199 has branded the UK as the aggressor. 151 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,879 We need to get the world on our side. 152 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,439 Last couple of points. I don't want the Russians to think- 153 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,599 I'm very conscious of time. We have got to get out and communicate. 154 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,159 I think the director of comms and I should, 155 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,559 with your permission, Prime Minister, leave the meeting. 156 00:09:29,560 --> 00:09:31,720 - Let me sum up briefly. Can I just make a point? - No. 157 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,799 The use of the wrong language can seem unnecessarily 158 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,119 jingoistic on our part. 159 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,839 As though we are relishing this conflict 160 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,840 when it is the last thing that we want. 161 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,079 We must have that in mind. 162 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,639 So the Deputy Prime Minister will do the delicate work 163 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,480 of delivering that press conference. 164 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:52,120 That is critical. 165 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,280 Good luck. 166 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,319 So we have a draft statement which starts with 167 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,279 the sinking of the HMS Loughborough. 168 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,199 Well, I need to see... Yes. 169 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,120 You're welcome to sit down. Thanks. 170 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,719 The journalists are arriving now. 171 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,079 There needs to be a bit more human expression of, you know, sorrow 172 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,439 and everything in this. 173 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,039 If I can get a printed copy this, 174 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,719 I can do some of this tweaking myself. 175 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,319 OK, you've still got time for autocue. Ten minutes. 176 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,679 It will be literally within the next few minutes. 177 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:39,639 And maybe they just needed more time to do this. 178 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,920 - They said they just need a few more minutes. - OK. 179 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:49,560 Let's get out now. 180 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,399 Do you mind just giving us two seconds? 181 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:53,800 Is that alright? Sorry. 182 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:58,600 OK. 183 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,679 Uh, ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much for coming here today. 184 00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:06,919 Just to give you an outline of what's going to happen, 185 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,799 we're going to have an address from the Deputy Prime Minister, 186 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,759 and then there will be an opportunity for questions. 187 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:13,840 Thank you. 188 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,080 Good afternoon everyone. Thank you for attending. 189 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:26,959 It is my grave duty today to advise you that in the last few hours, 190 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,959 HMS Loughborough has been sunk 191 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,759 by torpedo strikes from a Russian submarine. 192 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,199 Unfortunately, 193 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:42,079 I can confirm that 141 of the 185 194 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,720 servicemen and women on board have been killed. 195 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,719 This is the largest loss of British military life 196 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,599 in a single day since the Second World War. 197 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,519 There are now 141 homes across our country 198 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,439 where temporary absence has become final, 199 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:06,239 where photographs that sit on mantelpieces have become memorials. 200 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,839 To those families, let me say this, you are all in our thoughts, 201 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,959 but you do not grieve alone. 202 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,000 The whole nation grieves with you. 203 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,479 I want to ask people to remain calm, 204 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,640 to go about your daily lives as normal. 205 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:34,039 What happens now requires the clearest judgement. 206 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,999 We did not choose this situation, 207 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,839 but we cannot turn away from it. 208 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,559 That responsibility will guide every decision the government takes 209 00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:45,680 in the hours and days ahead. 210 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,559 We will open now to some questions from the media. 211 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:53,159 Um, Lucy Fisher, Financial Times. 212 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,839 Deputy Prime Minister, 213 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,679 do you plan to strike back against the Russian submarine 214 00:12:57,680 --> 00:12:59,479 that sank HMS Loughborough? 215 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,359 Obviously, the UK government is considering all options. 216 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,359 Our first and foremost priority is the defence of the country, 217 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,279 and attacks on our country will not be tolerated. 218 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:14,679 But it is in all our interests not to escalate the situation, 219 00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:18,119 but to try to deescalate in the interests of our people. 220 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,799 Adam Fleming. Can I pose a question to the CDS? 221 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,839 Yes, of course. Um, as the head of our armed forces, 222 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,879 do you have the resources you need right now to defend the UK, 223 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,839 to defend this country from any further attacks? 224 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,240 As the head of the Armed Forces, I have the resources I have right now. 225 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,199 And we're doing the very best with that 226 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,639 to be ready for whatever may happen next. 227 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,359 Gordon. 228 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,999 Do you have any reason to believe that Russia might be preparing 229 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,359 more military action? 230 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,719 Because I think the public might be asking how worried should they be? 231 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,079 We're part of NATO, and so we expect to be in a place 232 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,159 where the UK armed forces are working with our NATO partners 233 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:58,880 in deterring Russia. 234 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,679 Yes. Jane Mulkerrins, The Times. 235 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:06,999 Does Russia view us as a soft target at this point? 236 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,920 The decades of defence cuts leave us something of a sitting duck now. 237 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:16,799 Look, whatever Russia might think or want people to perceive 238 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,239 is one thing. 239 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,319 But any attack on the UK has consequences for our allies. 240 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,439 And so we will seek to work with our allies 241 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,479 and seek to de-escalate the situation. 242 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,720 Are we now at war with Russia? 243 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,679 Look, the language of war has been used by Russia. 244 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,719 The UK has not chosen to be in this situation, 245 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,679 and the UK government does not intend to do anything 246 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,159 that plays into the hands of Russia. 247 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:46,919 Thank you. Thank you very much, 248 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,399 ladies and gentlemen. We will be keeping you fully abreast. 249 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,679 We'll be having regular press briefings and of course, 250 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,039 you can contact the press office. Thank you very much. 251 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,239 I think it's a very difficult balance, obviously, 252 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,759 between transparency and reassurance. 253 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,919 Very probing questions. 254 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,800 And, you know, I think it was really exemplary. 255 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,560 Nicola, thank you. You handled that brilliantly. 256 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,679 Jesus Christ. I'm 29 years of living. 257 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,999 I don't feel like I've seen news like this. 258 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:31,159 Like, this is not something that's supposed to happen in our lifetime. 259 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,759 This is supposed to be something we learn about in history. 260 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,839 '141 homes across our country, 261 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,279 where temporary absence has become final, 262 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,799 where photographs that sit on mantel pieces.' 263 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,439 Come on, daddy, come on. 264 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,879 What? I want to go on the London eyes. 265 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,360 Alright. OK, OK, OK. Go get your shoes. 266 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,799 Whatever the situation is, 267 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,720 can we just figure out how to de-escalate this, please? 268 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,279 So Ange, this is a devastating turn of events. 269 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,039 141 British sailors dead. This is a tragedy. 270 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,399 It's horrendous. 271 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,079 And our thoughts are with all of those who have lost loved ones. 272 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,119 Russia has used this sinking of the Orlan 273 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,919 to justify attacking a British warship, 274 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,679 and the Kremlin will be watching like a hawk. 275 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,719 They'll be waiting to see how we respond 276 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,719 and who rallies to our defence. 277 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,319 This isn't just about us. 278 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,680 It's a test of the NATO alliance as a whole. 279 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:57,960 Could be going east. 280 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,959 I'm just drafting a line in case the phone rings. 281 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,800 It's on the top of our holding line. 282 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,719 This is a live continuing threat, 283 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,960 and we need to have a very fast tempo. 284 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,399 So, Prime Minister, by far the most important conversation 285 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,359 we need to have right now is with NATO. 286 00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:27,599 The air defence of the UK is meant to be a NATO wide operation, 287 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,999 which relies on our allies integrated air and missile defence, 288 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,160 including the US. 289 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,479 Surely, if this looks like a predetermined and pre-planned 290 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,159 Russian operation, 291 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,079 this is article five territory, isn't it? 292 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,479 Just very quickly, it strikes me 293 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,959 that the only time that article five has been called for 294 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,319 or enacted was after 9/11, 295 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,639 when the UK came immediately to the United States defence, 296 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,400 as did other NATO countries. 297 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,319 Thank you Chris. Absolutely right. 298 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,279 The foundation stone of our security for decades now 299 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,519 has been, not just our membership of NATO, 300 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,199 but the principle of article five, 301 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,439 that an attack on one is an attack on all. 302 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,559 Foreign Secretary, Defence Secretary, 303 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,080 we need to speak to the NATO Secretary General now. 304 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,919 So how do you want to play this? 305 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,399 We have to confirm we can count on them through article five. 306 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,400 This is a critical conversation. 307 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:34,000 Good morning, Secretary-General. 308 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,359 Lovely to speak to you. 309 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:38,959 You'll be aware that the United Kingdom 310 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,079 is under concerted attack. 311 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,959 Are you confident that you can persuade our NATO allies, 312 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,959 including the President of the United States, 313 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,559 to convene an article five meeting? 314 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,999 I can assure you that the NATO alliance 315 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,439 takes this provocation 316 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,039 extremely seriously, 317 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,199 but I have to tell you, unfortunately, 318 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,799 at the moment, the United States of America 319 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,680 is reserving its position. 320 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,119 And without them on side, 321 00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:14,679 it's difficult to obtain the consensus that will be required, 322 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:19,280 especially for an article five declaration. 323 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,039 That is very disappointing. 324 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,839 That means that the decades long, 325 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,080 effective deterrent that NATO has been, has failed. 326 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:36,879 You, sir, need to see this as an opportunity. 327 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,159 Otherwise, the legacy of your watch is going to be war. 328 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,559 You will know only too well, 329 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,919 that until the United States of America changes their position, 330 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,120 the alliance as a whole is unable to make a move. 331 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,119 Thank you for your efforts. 332 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:59,599 It is very clear that we must change the view of the United States 333 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,919 to get the best outcome. 334 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,599 Thank you very much, Secretary General. 335 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:04,800 Thank you sir. 336 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,119 Without the Americans, 337 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:10,719 we're fighting with one hand behind our back. 338 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,720 We might be absolutely fucked. 339 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,560 We stood by these people for years. 340 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,560 That is devastating news. 341 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:28,200 And it leaves the United Kingdom in a very difficult position. 342 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,759 But I think we need to go to the white House 343 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,080 and to see how that channel is developing. 344 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,279 I just make the obvious point. 345 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,239 You have to persuade them to change their minds. 346 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,479 Historically, we've always had a strong relationship 347 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:43,919 with the United States. 348 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,480 We need to remind them why we've always been such staunch allies. 349 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,999 The President is a capricious individual, 350 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,999 but I think that if I can speak to him myself, 351 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,319 I'm pretty confident 352 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,479 that he'll live up to his responsibilities within NATO. 353 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,160 Have you seen this? 354 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,959 Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, 355 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,439 We'll be keeping you fully abreast. 356 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,239 We'll be having regular press briefings. 357 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,600 And of course, you can contact the press office. 358 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,999 We're only in this fucking mess 359 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,480 because that big fucking baby's. taking orders from Russia. 360 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,319 It's as if it's caught on her microphone. 361 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,319 It's going viral right now. Yeah. 362 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,759 We're getting a lot of comments online about the video. 363 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,879 Yeah. I mean, they're all just kind of like, I hate this government. 364 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,560 I've never felt less safe. 365 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,000 This isn't good. 366 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:02,159 First from other sources about what has happened. 367 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,719 I think the public- 368 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,879 Deputy Prime Minister, I'm very sorry to interrupt, 369 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,719 but a very important development has happened. 370 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,679 There is a very unhelpful clip circulating. 371 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,200 I'd like to play it for you now. 372 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,199 We're only in this fucking mess 373 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,920 because that big fucking baby's taking orders from Russia. 374 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,840 This is going absolutely viral across the world right now. 375 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,599 Can I ask a really uncomfortable question? 376 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,399 I shouldn't have to ask. That is not me. 377 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,679 It definitely wasn't said. It definitely wasn't said. 378 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,680 It definitely wasn't. Definitely was not said. 379 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,880 This is a deep fake piece of misinformation... 380 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,879 ...but this is gaining a lot of traction. 381 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,520 There's a lot of people believing it to be true. 382 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,079 The president of the United States, if we don't act quickly, 383 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,839 we'll respond to this and this will escalate. 384 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,599 This is a situation that could very, very quickly run out of control 385 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,839 and break the relationship with the United States. 386 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,639 It only underlines the importance 387 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,360 of talking to the White House as soon as possible. 388 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,479 I thought it actually was you. 389 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,919 For a moment thought, "Did I actually see that?" 390 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,159 So immediately when you see and hear something that, 391 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,759 you know, to all intents and purposes is you, 392 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,640 - that's your first instinct. Did I say that. - Crazy? 393 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,759 Uh... 394 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,440 The president of the United States has posted. 395 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,719 The fact that POTUS is responding 396 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,359 at that point, this becomes a diplomatic issue 397 00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:58,200 that is not for us to deal with. 398 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,840 Can I bring you an update? 399 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,879 The president of the United States has tweeted 400 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,079 in response to the deep fake video. 401 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:15,079 He has said, "My advice to the UK, if you want US protection, 402 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,679 don't TRASH talk." "Trash" in capital letters. 403 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,479 "Now get to the back of the line." 404 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,199 It has gone very big on social media. 405 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,999 This is as much a part of the Russian's war play 406 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,879 - as sinking a ship. - Absolutely. 407 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,759 It's entirely, you know, designed to divide, 408 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,079 confuse, incite division. 409 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,639 And we really need to be careful 410 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,160 - we don't allow ourselves to be dragged down. - Yeah. 411 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,199 We know the president is deeply angered 412 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,559 by this so-called hot mic scandal. 413 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,479 I mean, what are the Brits doing over there? 414 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,559 They're talking about deep fakes. 415 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,159 They're talking about Russian cyber warfare. 416 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,679 What I'm not hearing is, "We're sorry." 417 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,679 Our president is a proud man. 418 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,159 If the UK want our help with Russia right now, 419 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,160 I suggest they try a bit of humility. 420 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,519 After this hot mic incident 421 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,520 the president is furious... 422 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,840 ...and he won't take your call. 423 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,239 Astound... astounding. 424 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,720 Very bad. Yes. Yeah. 425 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,079 I can speak to my US opposite number, 426 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,319 US Secretary of State. He probably is more reasonable. 427 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,400 Please, Jim. Thank you. 428 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,759 Hello, Secretary of State. 429 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,799 You and I have always been honest with each other. 430 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,639 Yeah. I gotta interrupt you. 431 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,359 What's going on over there? 432 00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:46,399 And what is the story with this hot mic situation? 433 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,279 Um, I mean, we heard it. 434 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,479 We heard every word. You know, the baby orders from Moscow. 435 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,319 I'm going to let you sit with the fact 436 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,199 that the president of the United States is furious. 437 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,400 Understood. 438 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,639 Just to cut through all the bullshit then. 439 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,319 This isn't real. 440 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,319 Perception is reality in politics. 441 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,119 OK, the president thinks it's real. 442 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:08,359 - Yeah. - OK. 443 00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:10,439 He's responded to it like it's real. 444 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,239 Uh, and whatever you're about to say about deep fakes, 445 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,559 the president believes it. 446 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,999 OK? So that's the only audience that matters right now. 447 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,839 Look, I know Nicola Sturgeon. I've known her for years. 448 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,719 I know she didn't say this. 449 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,799 I know she doesn't think this. 450 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,919 If you want help here, we have to get the president back on side. 451 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,759 I get that. So I would really welcome your advice 452 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,960 because we can't apologise for Russian disinformation. 453 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,639 If you're saying to me it's a deep fake, I believe you. 454 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,199 The problem is not me. 455 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,839 He doesn't believe you. 456 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,199 We were this close to getting him to call you guys. 457 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,359 What we want is a de-escalation. 458 00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:50,999 I need you to keep your powder dry. 459 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,319 I'm asking you, 460 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,839 I'm imploring you for patience. 461 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,879 And I will talk to the president 462 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,399 because we don't want to escalate this. 463 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,239 I'm going to hop. Let's reconvene after you guys regroup. 464 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,880 - Thank you. Cheers. - Thank you. 465 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,559 Prime Minister, I wish I could bring you happier news. 466 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,359 The Secretary of State said that the president remains angry. 467 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:16,999 The only guidance he gave was an appeal for de-escalation. 468 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,399 I don't want to put it too finely, but without the Americans, 469 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,920 we're in a hole that we have never planned for. 470 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,039 We're now in a very different world 471 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,919 where America is not just capricious, 472 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,680 but may actively be working against our interests. 473 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,239 To all intents and purposes, NATO as a functioning alliance 474 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,999 is dead in the water right now. 475 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,679 We're in this setting which we never expected to be in, 476 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,800 where we're standing alone. 477 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,559 We need to be aware if we start getting phone calls, 478 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,119 they will already be asking for our response. 479 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,399 As in like us attacking Russia? 480 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,639 So you can just say we can't comment on the operational details 481 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,440 and we'll provide updates in due course. 482 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:08,239 Right now, we look weak on the world stage, beaten up by Moscow. 483 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,599 And what's worse is we're certainly not on the best of terms 484 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,119 with the American president. 485 00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:15,439 The Russians will see us as vulnerable. 486 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,679 - Isolated. - Yes, exactly. 487 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,239 I mean, if America isn't supporting us and we do retaliate 488 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,839 for the sinking of the Loughborough, the Russians are worried, 489 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,679 might feel emboldened to escalate. 490 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,759 If there is a military response, 491 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,039 I think it will be something the UK hasn't had to endure 492 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,879 for over 80 years, and none of us will be ready 493 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,800 for the scale of that kind of crisis, will we? 494 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,520 You having a nice time, sweetheart? Yeah. 495 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,959 What can you see. 496 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,840 That's water. Seagulls. 497 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,039 I want someone to tell me, 498 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,439 "Chill, it's fine. 499 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,199 We're going to have a sit down, mature adult conversation 500 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,799 and discuss this further." 501 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,560 Like adults in power should do. 502 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,239 But I don't feel like that's going to happen. 503 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,759 I mean, I hate the thought of war, 504 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,879 but I feel like the government's going to have to, 505 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,439 uh, retaliate in some way 506 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,799 because, you know, Russia cannot get away with doing that. 507 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,400 I can't even believe I'm talking like this. 508 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,159 Stingray 2-5 to watch team. 509 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,080 Stingray 2-5 to watch team. Acknowledge, over. 510 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,159 Sir. 511 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,040 Incoming comms from P-8. 512 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,639 Where's the P-8? 513 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,360 In the central Norwegian Sea. 514 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,679 Still making fire. Confirmed. 515 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,639 Tracking and bearing 050. 516 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,719 Repeat bearing 050. 517 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,120 Standing by for further. 518 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,559 CDS, sorry to interrupt. 519 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,039 I've got a P-8 has located 520 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,079 the submarine that sunk the Loughborough. 521 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,879 It has a firing solution. 522 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,560 It can take out the submarine, but it has to strike now. 523 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,959 So the aircraft knows where the submarine is now and is circling it. 524 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,999 That puts the aircraft at some risk. 525 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,600 - Yes. - If you want that submarinesunk, it's now. 526 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,720 I think you must, Prime Minister. 527 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,479 It is the vessel that hit the Loughborough. 528 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,319 It's the most appropriate response that we have 529 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,719 that is likely to be clear 530 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,839 about why we're doing it and therefore not escalate. 531 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,839 Defence Secretary, we're already trying to navigate NATO 532 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,679 with America sitting on the fence. 533 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,639 We know that we cannot retaliate in anger. 534 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,239 Not only would it lose us diplomatic goodwill, 535 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,079 if we take these actions, 536 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,679 we are, in effect, in a state of war with Russia. 537 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,319 But is it a fair assumption for us to make 538 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,039 that while they will retaliate if we sink their submarine, 539 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,799 they're not going to simply back off and say that is it 540 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,559 if we do nothing. No, no. 541 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,800 Doing nothing, in my opinion, isn't an option. 542 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,759 I've spent far too much the last 25 years 543 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,039 living in the Russian leadership's heads. 544 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,039 My conclusion has been if we don't respond, 545 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,559 then it will just get worse. 546 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,559 This is the way they are. Like with all bullies. 547 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:12,959 If you punch them hard, 548 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,559 you know, they're likely to move off and pick on someone else. 549 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,199 We've got to take decisive action. 550 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,719 The way it will escalate 551 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,919 is if we sit back and make excuses for not acting. 552 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,200 Therefore, I think the idea of sinking the submarine is essential. 553 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,399 In several decades of looking at the Russian problem, 554 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,439 if presented with weakness, they'll exploit it, 555 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,879 they will respond and it will hurt, 556 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,279 but they're going to do it anyway. 557 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,719 It'll be more than the Orlan wreck. 558 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,559 So we're introducing some balance into this contest if we do this. 559 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,599 But it's going to be painful either way. 560 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,679 - Aisha. - We've just had a statement tothe public from the Russians. 561 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,159 They are saying that they are signalling intent 562 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,279 to send three warships into UK territorial waters. 563 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,919 They indicate that any obstruction of their warships 564 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,039 will be considered a continuation of hostile actions. 565 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,599 So we have not retaliated yet, Prime Minister, 566 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,479 and they are escalating. 567 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,239 The danger in a situation like this, 568 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,559 when we're round a table like this, 569 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,679 is that we expect closure. 570 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,599 We expect at some point there to be a moment, 571 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,199 a ceasefire, a closing, a neat and tidy ending. 572 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,079 That is not going to happen in this situation 573 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,080 unless we take decisive military action and retaliate. 574 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,279 Let me, first of all, check with the Attorney General 575 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,399 to see what the legal position is on the strike. 576 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,199 The legal position is clear. 577 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,279 There's no legal barriers for us taking this decision. 578 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,359 The only question I have is, do we have any sense of how many people 579 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,519 will be on board? 580 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,639 You should assume in rough numbers about 80 casualties. 581 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,799 That doesn't materially alter the legal position, Ange, does it? 582 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,359 These are not civilians. No. Thank you. 583 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,319 I'm sorry, Prime Minister, but I must push you for an answer. 584 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,959 We have to brace ourselves for an escalation from Russia. 585 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,919 But that escalation is already coming. 586 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,999 We can't afford to wait any longer 587 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,239 for the Americans to do the right thing. 588 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,359 We've either got to force them or live with the consequences. 589 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,319 We have to strike back. 590 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,719 Prime Minister, I'm going to issue that instruction now. 591 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,439 I can't reverse it 592 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,919 once I've gone out of this room and issued the instruction. 593 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,239 - I'm going to do this right now. Thank you. - That's it. 594 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,039 OK. Prime Minister and the cabinet 595 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,159 have considered this. 596 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,719 Sink the submarine. Do it now. 597 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,759 Yep. 598 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,359 And then we're gonna have to cope with the escalation. 599 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,439 Can you tell me when it's done? 600 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,079 And then we're looking for the immediate signs 601 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,320 of a Russian response. 602 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,479 Watch team to Stingray 2-5. Clear to engage. 603 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,680 Acknowledged. Clear to engage. 604 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,639 I mean, sinking one of those subs is about as aggressive as it gets. 605 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,000 Instructions passed. 606 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,079 Weaponed armed and in the bay. 20 seconds to drop. 607 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,320 Copy. 608 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,960 Weapon away. Clear of aircraft. 609 00:34:43,240 --> 00:34:44,600 Weapon in the water. 610 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,920 Weapon ahead, running. 611 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,040 Torpedo inbound on target. 612 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,960 500m from target. 613 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,679 Sonar buoys indicate impact. 614 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,720 Repeat, sonar buoys indicate impact. 615 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,040 It appears target's been destroyed, sir. 616 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,359 So on that basis... 617 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,399 Sorry, sir. 618 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,400 The P-8 has successfully engaged the submarine. No survivors. 619 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,679 Because the situation is escalating potentially so quickly, 620 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,639 Aisha, can you prepare 621 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,919 the opportunity for me to broadcast to the nation within the hour? 622 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,599 Yes. I cannot stress this enough. 623 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,079 We're safe here, for the time being. 624 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,399 It will be them out in the country 625 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,079 absolutely terrified about what's going to happen. 626 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,399 Yes. 627 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,279 It'd be critical, of course, to provide public reassurance 628 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,960 because we know this determined escalation that is coming. 629 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,039 With your permission, Prime Minister, I'm going to update 630 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,799 our allies on what's just happened. 631 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,239 Prime Minister, I'm going to go and prepare the press office 632 00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:03,160 for your address to the nation. 633 00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:13,999 Hello. Government press office. 634 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,039 Government will release all of its information- 635 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,120 I see. The Prime Minister will be addressing the nation soon. 636 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,479 I can't comment on the operation details at the moment. 637 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,960 Thank you very much. 638 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,920 Thank you. 639 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:44,040 Are we good to go? 640 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,439 I want to address you directly tonight 641 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,719 because our nation is under attack. 642 00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:52,319 We are facing a sustained assault 643 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,080 on our way of life, our safety and our freedom. 644 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,359 Hey, Lily. What's that? 645 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,199 The London Eye! 646 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,040 Hurray! We're at the London Eye! 647 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,720 It is my duty to defend and protect this country from attack. 648 00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:15,799 That is why our armed forces have been in action already. 649 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,600 To counter this threat to all of us. 650 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,559 This morning, our forces attacked 651 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,679 and succeeded in sinking the Russian submarine 652 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,560 which was responsible for the attack on the Loughborough. 653 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,199 This is a very grave step for any country, 654 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,759 but the decision we took was necessary, 655 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,600 proportionate and legal. 656 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,679 We must prepare for Russia to hit back. 657 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,279 And already, the government is doing everything possible 658 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,200 to prepare our country and to make it safer. 659 00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:59,959 Absolutely at no point will I be going to war. 660 00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:03,559 So please do not drag me into your beef. 661 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,359 And unfortunately, it's just not my fucking problem. 662 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,999 Things are only gonna get worse. 663 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,719 We're literally against Russia. We didn't need to beef Russia. 664 00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:13,559 Now we're beefing Russia for what reason? 665 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,559 Like, it's like the UK don't learn, bro. 666 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,360 We're putting ourselves in danger. 667 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,359 My granddaughter's come out of school today, 668 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,959 and she told me that they've been practising in case they get bombed. 669 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,759 So in high school today 670 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,839 they've been hiding under tables. 671 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,319 How are the people of the nation? 672 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,039 What is going on? 673 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,640 Say it. We are at war now. 674 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,199 We will fight for freedom 675 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,559 with all the determination 676 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,559 of a truly great country 677 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,560 and we will prevail. 678 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,719 We know that Russia will respond and Russia's capacity to respond 679 00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:59,359 in terms of missile strikes, drone strikes, 680 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:00,679 aircraft attacks 681 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,439 is significantly greater than our ability to fend them off. 682 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,039 Yes, we need to consider 683 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,999 where we put the few assets we have 684 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,680 that can deal with air attacks. 685 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,159 So where we are right now, first of all, 686 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,719 we only have four available 687 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:25,399 ground-based Sky Sabre missile systems. 688 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,599 We need them to protect our critical airfields and fighter jets, 689 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,439 but they only have a range of about 25km. 690 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,879 So if we use them to protect these airfields, 691 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,479 which we must, it will compromise our ability 692 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,760 to defend the UK's cities. 693 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,999 Our only major defence assets 694 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,399 which are capable of shooting down long-range ballistic missiles 695 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,439 are the Type 45 destroyers. 696 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,319 But right now 697 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,160 in our waters, we only have one that's operational. 698 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,559 It's not great, is it? 699 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,479 We've got a huge availability problem here, 700 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,519 and it's just decades' worth of under-resourcing. 701 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,640 We need to present this to cabinet. 702 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,599 I think the main effort for us now 703 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,479 is to focus on what we do next, 704 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,199 how we protect the UK. 705 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,519 So we must now assume the UK will be put under attack from the air. 706 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,199 - Yes. - I think Russia'smilitary priority 707 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,680 will be Faslane - independent nuclear deterrent base. 708 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,479 Our only available Type 45 destroyer 709 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,679 can intercept ballistic missiles to a range of 120km. 710 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,679 The vessel is currently stationed off the west coast of Scotland, 711 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,439 protecting Faslane. 712 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,119 I strongly advise it stays where it is, 713 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,719 protecting that nuclear capability. 714 00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:54,960 I don't want to dwell on this point unnecessarily, but just one vessel. 715 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,239 This may not be the time to rehearse this argument, 716 00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:00,999 but we asked for 12 Type 45 destroyers. 717 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,399 Six were bought. 718 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,519 The money exists to sustain, in action, three at any one time, 719 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,759 and we have one ready right now. 720 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,399 And therefore, we have to accept 721 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,439 that many major cities and towns will be at risk. 722 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,079 We will be relying on our fighter jets to protect them, 723 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,440 and they don't deal with ballistic missiles. 724 00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:22,119 So in crude terms, 725 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,439 anyone who imagines that there's anything like the Israeli Iron Dome 726 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,199 over the United Kingdom is deluding themselves. 727 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,639 - Oh, yes. - But can I just ask for usto consider a strategy 728 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,079 where we decide to protect human life and not weapons. 729 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,400 May I come back on that? Yes. 730 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,119 We obviously are focussed on protecting lives. 731 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,399 And if we do not have a deterrent, 732 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,239 um, that is going to be an extremely difficult situation 733 00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:51,919 and could lead - 734 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,799 and I would say likely to lead - 735 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,439 to catastrophic loss of life. 736 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,879 I hear that. We are in a situation right now 737 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,759 where we have a nuclear deterrent. 738 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,679 It's not deterring Russian action, 739 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,879 and we are isolated because- It is deterring 740 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,999 what it is designed to deter, which is the use of nuclear weapons 741 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,159 in one form or another against the United Kingdom. 742 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,359 It is the only deterrent that we have. 743 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,119 I think it's really important, though, that in these discussions 744 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,439 we challenge ourselves. 745 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,879 I completely agree. 746 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,999 It is uniquely difficult 747 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,919 given how tight and scarce our resources are, 748 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,199 to ensure that we can defend every civilian life 749 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,320 at a time like this. 750 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,839 But if we don't protect Faslane, 751 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,920 a key element of our nuclear deterrent would then be compromised. 752 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,879 Therefore, I do authorise 753 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,199 the Type 45 to remain where it is. 754 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,879 It's in the right location. 755 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,440 It should stay where it is. 756 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,839 Radar alert. One cruise missile picked up 757 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,559 heading towards... south east of England. 758 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,479 That's missile two, cruise missile. 759 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,359 What is that? 760 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,120 What the fuck was that? 761 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,840 Jesus Christ. 762 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,800 I have absolutely no idea what that was. 763 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,639 Hey, Lulu. Look. 764 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,840 It's where we were. You see? 765 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,040 Let's go. 766 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:05,679 Lulu! 767 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,199 Stop! 768 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,439 My God! Run! 769 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,839 Oh, my God! 770 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,840 Daddy! 771 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,919 Cruise missile picked up. 772 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,559 And another. And another. 773 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,679 Impact. Impact. Impact. 774 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,319 Oh, my God. 775 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,399 Total of 38 deaths, 231 further casualties. 776 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,839 People in this country, they've never seen anything like this. 777 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,279 What should we be doing? 778 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,280 The only thing we can do is to strike back. 779 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,920 Subtitles by Sky Access Services www.skyaccessibility.sky